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Madfingers
September 7th, 2007, 07:44 AM
The following is a request I submitted to the body of the ACMM and DHS/Admin. It is not covered in any up coming proposed initiative processes that I am aware of and still to many, including Senator Morrisette and others including myself unfinished business and a total determint to those trying to help others more efficiently, stay in compliance and take care of their own needs too..................

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I have sent this as my request for an agenda item for the September ACMM meeting in Sept. If only to keep this issue alive and because it is my understanding that Shannon O'Fallon is suppose to be in attendance.....

I know it is of great importance to all cardholding providers. My contention is that only by default has the mature plant been given status and it still remains undefined.

Dear Chairlady,

A request to the agenda concerning old business to be reconsidered.

Revisiting the Mature Definition

The Statute:
(3) The Department of Human Services shall define by rule when a marijuana plant is mature and when it is immature. The rule shall provide that a plant that has no flowers and that is less than 12 inches in height and less than 12 inches in diameter is a seedling or a start and is not a mature plant. [1999 c.4 §7; 2005 c.822 §2]


The OAR:
(21) “Seedling or start” means a marijuana plant that has no flowers and is less than twelve (12) inches in height and less than twelve (12) inches in diameter. A seedling or start must meet all three (3) criteria set forth above or it will be considered a mature plant.

(23) “Usable marijuana” means the dried leaves and flowers of the plant Cannabis family Moraceae, and any mixture or preparation thereof, that are appropriate for medical use. “Usable marijuana” does not include the seeds, stalks and roots of the plant.

Comment:
We need our teenagers back. Maybe the easiest way for a layman to understand this is that as in the human species even teenagers want to consider themselves mature, but they aren’t, even if they are 6’5” and 300lbs.
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A plant that is immature does not have “Usable marijuana” attributes regardless of its size. It could be very useful in helping new patients or their growers by shaving 5 or more weeks off their waiting time for their garden to produce “Usable marijuana”.

Comments made by Tim Sylvester in December of 06 and more recently from Senator
Morrisette to Alice Ivany indicate we can still change this for the better and benefit to the patient.

The DHS/OMMP still has not defined ‘mature marijuana’ only what should be considered mature. My suggestion is that we define mature as marijuana that has visible

flowers that could become usable.

Any variation from the legal minds would be greatly appreciated.

Respectfully,
Jim Klahr

Chetskies
September 7th, 2007, 08:11 AM
Here Here!!

Visable proof is easily available. Just look at the requests for meds on this site alone. Also, take a look at the growers being pressured for the next harvest. Removing the 12" rule would make almost all of the med requests fillable by the group as a whole. Taking on a new patient would not be such a drain on the grower. New patient equals new clones equals 120+ days until that patients actual meds are available. If a grower had full size plants in veg that could be put in flower the minute a patient joined a grower, that grower could add 6 plants into the flower room. This alone would cut the lag time in half, but more importantly, a grower taking on a new patient wouldn't have such a drain on the meds that were grown previously for an existing patient.

Do this...and you WILL see the current pain and suffering drop significantly. An added bonus would be that more growers would step up to the plate. IMHO

mamaruns
September 7th, 2007, 08:23 AM
I was just thinking about this before I signed on here. I almost always have to put my plants into flower when they are still relatively small in order to stay within the size limits, which really limits the amount of meds that I get. Always having enough on hand can be a challenge, and I only grow for myself. I'm with you 100%, Madfingers!

Cosmic Cowboy
September 7th, 2007, 08:29 AM
another angle to me is that the 12'' rule is a joke to outdoor growers.But most grows are indoors and ,imho, the program is structured for indoor in fact by the 12'' issue...I would think a new grower could possibly see more success and less stress if you don't have to get down with your tape measure to insure compliance and try to keep an aggressive growing plant on a short leash to keep it under the size limit. without this rule maybe indoor growers could nurse a few BIG teenagers and hand them out each spring for outdoor growers without compromising their own "mature" plant count they need to supply their needs....hell, maybe an outdoor community garden to start a healthy stash to give to new and pest devastated members while they get back to good w/o the embarrassment of the med request room (embarrassing to me at least) nice work Fingers

PS while I type so slow my point was being strengthened my Mamaruns


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rastamama
September 7th, 2007, 08:35 AM
What would be the best way for us to help, MF?

Madfingers
September 7th, 2007, 09:04 AM
What would be the best way for us to help, MF?

It's always best to make the meetings, voice your opinion during the comment time. Write and call the DHS!

This issue is to important to be swept under the rug or pushed aside time and again and it can be done by a rule change without the legislative process.

Madfingers

rastamama
September 7th, 2007, 09:17 AM
Hey MF, this is RM's husband. I'll call DHS, is there anyone in particular I should talk to? Also, when is the next ACMM meeting?

Madfingers
September 7th, 2007, 11:59 AM
Hey MF, this is RM's husband. I'll call DHS, is there anyone in particular I should talk to? Also, when is the next ACMM meeting?


Next meeting is the 21st of this month in Eugene . . .

Tugmcgraw
November 27th, 2009, 12:50 PM
This post has been moved to The Joint where it should get a better response, this thread is being closed due to its age...

Thanks Madfingers