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Mt Hood Tom
August 18th, 2007, 01:14 PM
Mine expires in Oct so I am starting the process. Do I need to go to THCC clinic or Mama's again or can I just fill out the OMMP renew form and send in my money? What is the process to renew my current card. Thanks.

tleah444
August 18th, 2007, 01:20 PM
If you do not have a physician to sign your renewal form, then MAMA's or THCF has doctors to see. You must bring current (w/in 3 months), medical records showing your qualifying condition. There may be more info out there,but I just got my renewal and MAMA's was a great way to go through the process. THCF works too, got started there, just takes longer and less personal. You save a few dollars at THCF, but depends on what your time and comfort level are worth.

Chetskies
August 18th, 2007, 01:21 PM
Mine expires in Oct so I am starting the process. Do I need to go to THCC clinic or Mama's again or can I just fill out the OMMP renew form and send in my money? What is the process to renew my current card. Thanks.
You will either need to go to your primary doctor and have him/her sign it (for free), or you will need to go through one of the clinics...again. They will charge you again, but the money goes to a good cause. You actually have 30 days past the expiration date on your card to get your paperwork together, but I wouldn't recommend stretching it. Get it done on time.;)

Mt Hood Tom
August 18th, 2007, 03:31 PM
Of the 2 clinics which is the most comfortable to deal with? I started with THCC when nurse pammy was there, and she was the only great part about that dealing. Thanks all, I will get the ball rolling.

laughinglion
August 18th, 2007, 06:28 PM
You actually have 30 days past the expiration date on your card to get your paperwork together, but I wouldn't recommend stretching it. Get it done on time.;)


Interesting the little things I've learned here on OGF. I just got a 30 day extention because I got held up by a dr. appt. It was not a problem. But the rules do say one time only. My paperwork is done (again) - I'm not worried about crossing my i's as much as crossing the t's for my caregiver and grower. Glad it is done for another year. I'll be even happier when I get that letter saying "your paperwork appers to be in order" and then even happier on that magic day when the card arrives for another year.

jeffrey169
August 18th, 2007, 07:45 PM
in regards to the medical records they are exceptable for 3 years at teh thcf clinic Jeff just went and renewed his and teh lady said your records are good for 3 years so if you have them within that time you are good to go and dont have to get new one unless your condition has changed...Just and FYI for yah



Terri

big stevo
August 19th, 2007, 04:39 AM
For a renewal, if YOUR DR. won't sign, then just get your chart notes with qualifying conditions and treament and submit them directly to OMMP along with other renewal papers.....You don't need to go through clinics if you don't want to on renewals...I have done this for my last 3 renewals....good luck...big stevo:cool:

laughinglion
August 19th, 2007, 08:07 AM
For a renewal, if YOUR DR. won't sign, then just get your chart notes with qualifying conditions and treament and submit them directly to OMMP along with other renewal papers.....You don't need to go through clinics if you don't want to on renewals...I have done this for my last 3 renewals....good luck...big stevo:cool:


Those chart notes must be current within 3 months. Is that correct?

That will save a little dough next year. Thanks, big stevo

MrClone
August 19th, 2007, 08:57 AM
What was a 30 day grace period [extension] now must be requested in writing to the OMMP and be received before your old card expires and it is also now a one time extension only.

I miss Pam...

On sending in chart notes.. yes they must be within 90 days if you are sending them directly to the OMMP. And they do send a verification letter to the Dr. who signed your chart notes if you go that route. That Dr. must sign and return the letter.
Mine refused to sign that letter, so I grew for free for 5 months while my app. was on appeal last year. I ended up having to get a new Dr. to sign for me. I found that Dr at MAMAs clinic. That place rocks, I'll be back in soon.

M.C.

BIG ISLAND JEFF
August 19th, 2007, 09:25 AM
I went through voter power, both for my original card and for my renewal. People dont think they havs clinics but they do. the doc and staff was real helpful.:rolleyes:

mischi
August 19th, 2007, 09:32 AM
they are changing the chart note requirements. i'm not sure when it goes into effect but the chart notes will have to include notes about MMJ. even if your doctor doesn't want to sign the recommendation, the chart notes must still include your use of MMJ and that the doc believes you may benefit from MMJ use. just want to give everyone a heads up about the change.

AlphaMale
August 19th, 2007, 09:53 AM
I am due for renewal soon and a Dr. other than the one who signed my original application and the last renewal, will sign this time.

Am I correct, that all the new Dr. must do is complete his part of the renewal application? Then he will get a letter asking him to confirm with a signature?

That's it, .... right?

Perhaps I will print the applicable section of OMMP regs for him, just to reassure him. This will be his first signature....I think he is as excited as I am.

best,
AM

Chetskies
August 19th, 2007, 10:41 AM
What was a 30 day grace period [extension] now must be requested in writing to the OMMP and be received before your old card expires and it is also now a one time extension only.


M.C.
Is there anything specific that must be included in the request. Or does one simply need to handwrite a letter requesting an extension? Also...is that a one time only extension per year?

big stevo
August 19th, 2007, 11:42 AM
Those chart notes must be current within 3 months. Is that correct?

That will save a little dough next year. Thanks, big stevo

Correct, chart notes must be within 3 months....
and dont wait till the last minute, they are backed up again and it takes a while to process.....peace.....big stevo:cool:

Genesis 1:29
August 19th, 2007, 11:47 AM
Correct, chart notes must be within 3 months....
and dont wait till the last minute, they are backed up again and it takes a while to process.....peace.....big stevo:cool:

for renews I suggest waiting until the last minute. my card expired 6/13 and they cashed my check on 6/12 so I know they had my paperwork in time. I recieved the letter saying the paperwork is being processed and am waiting for them to date my new card and send it to me. so far I have 2 free months. as long as I am legal, they can take their time.

Sean

Sequoiacrone
August 19th, 2007, 12:02 PM
You will either need to go to your primary doctor and have him/her sign it (for free), or you will need to go through one of the clinics...again. They will charge you again, but the money goes to a good cause. You actually have 30 days past the expiration date on your card to get your paperwork together, but I wouldn't recommend stretching it. Get it done on time.;)


THIS IS NOT TRUE!! Please do NOT put yourself in jeopardy by thinking this is fact. YOUR OMMP CARD IS NOT GOOD AFTER THE EXPIRATION DATE!!
YOU can get a 30 day extention on your paperwork if YOU call up WELL in advance of your expiration date and make arrangements with DHS/OMMP. This is used by some folks who have had their DR appt's too late to make thier original expiration date. There could be other reasons, but that is what I have seen.

IF you allow it to expire you will not be paying the RENEWAL price, because you will have to reapply, and YOU will not be protected by the OMMA statute until that goes through.

Please read the law, call DHS/OMMP and verify this if you are in doubt. IF I am wrong please correct me.
I found out this information from calling DHS/OMMP last year when I missed my DR appointment due to an emergency. I had a lapse and had to reapply.

Thank you

Sequoia :)

Cajunwoman
August 19th, 2007, 12:17 PM
Oncer again, Sequoia goes to the Truth of the matter! But Big Stevo, I'm confused
about what you said.
Voter Power has clinics in Portland, Sutherlin, Medford, Eugene.

Sequoiacrone
August 19th, 2007, 12:47 PM
they are changing the chart note requirements. i'm not sure when it goes into effect but the chart notes will have to include notes about MMJ. even if your doctor doesn't want to sign the recommendation, the chart notes must still include your use of MMJ and that the doc believes you may benefit from MMJ use. just want to give everyone a heads up about the change.



Chart notes were allowed to be sent to DHS/OMMP for your renewal. These were used to substantiate your qualifying condition to the OMMP. In other words if you had AIDS you would still qualify and obviously you are under a doctors care. THE doctor did not have to sign for you, you qualified for the program, by presenting the RECENT chart notes of the diagnosing/treating physician. The physician did not have to approve or disapprove your use of cannabis, YOU only had to prove that you had a qualifying condition.

(12) “Written documentation” means a statement signed by the attending physician of a person diagnosed with a debilitating medical condition or copies of the person’s relevant medical records. [1999 c.4 §3; 2001 c.900 §205; 2003 c.14 §305; 2005 c.22 §346; 2005 c.822 §1]

Chart notes are signed/initialed by the doctor when he sees you. THAT is why they were acceptable. TRANSCRIPTIONS sometimes are NOT signed, but they should be for accuracy.
A lot depends on the way your doctor handles your medical records.
I know they were talking about changing that at the ACMM meetings, but the statute is where I found that information and it is up to date.
DR Higginson of the DHS/OMMP would review those and approve them in the PAST.


Medical Records are necessary to go to a cannabis clinic, like the THCF or VP or MAMA's clinics. Doctors often send for charts from office to office and is a courtesy among the physicians. YOU can arrange with the clinics in advance to have your records before your appointment.

The only way to check if this information is accurate is to CALL DHS/OMMP and speak to Aaron or another knowledgeable employee of that department. I am sure someone there can verify if they are still using chart notes for renewals.

Do your homework. It isn't easy to get through the phone lines at OMMP as they have time restrictions....I think they start at 11 am and only go for a few hours.

Let the forum members know what they say. I have heard some members had problems with submitting medical records, but I have also heard from members that it went well.

Yes, you can get a couple extra months by filing later, I see my doc three months before my expire date....and send it in to DHS/OMMP two weeks before my card expires. KEEP the reciept, that is YOUR protection.
IT's good to keep your TIME factors (expirations, time for appts, etc) and doctor appointments in sync.

Good luck in your renewal process, give yourself plenty of time and it will go smoothly.

Sequoia :)

Chetskies
August 19th, 2007, 02:08 PM
THIS IS NOT TRUE!! Please do NOT put yourself in jeopardy by thinking this is fact. YOUR OMMP CARD IS NOT GOOD AFTER THE EXPIRATION DATE!!
YOU can get a 30 day extention on your paperwork if YOU call up WELL in advance of your expiration date and make arrangements with DHS/OMMP. This is used by some folks who have had their DR appt's too late to make thier original expiration date. There could be other reasons, but that is what I have seen.

Thank you

Sequoia :)

Oregon Administrative Rules
2006 Compilation
DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES, PUBLIC HEALTH
DIVISION 8
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
333-008-0000
Description of the Oregon Medical Marijuana Act

PAGE 12
(4) If the renewal information is not received by the expiration date on the registry identification card, the patient’s registry identification card and all other associated Oregon Medical Marijuana Program cards, if any will be deemed expired. The expiration date may be extended, due to personal hardship, at the discretion of the Department. If a person fails to apply for renewal within the time period specified in this rule, that person must submit a new application.

Our personal hardship last year is that we were in the middle of moving and completely spaced the exp date. I called them a week after the exp date and explained. It was hardship enough for them. We got the papers in within the 30 days and there was no requirement to re-apply.

I'm not saying its a good idea to tempt fate with your card. What I was trying to get across is that there is a extension loophole on the books. There is room for interpretation in the way it is written.

laughinglion
August 19th, 2007, 03:14 PM
What was a 30 day grace period [extension] now must be requested in writing to the OMMP and be received before your old card expires and it is also now a one time extension only.


M.C.

I did that in August. I got a letter back saying they approved the one month extention. Then I saw the doc, paid the fee & got date stamped docs just like usual.

MrsRoadRunner
August 20th, 2007, 08:13 PM
So those of us who have life long conditions need not to worry so much as those who have conditions that can go away?
How early is good? one two or three months prior to the expiration date? Earlier?
Thanks.....

kz4bdz
September 5th, 2007, 04:56 PM
How early is good? one two or three months prior to the expiration date? Earlier?
depends, if you mail I would go at least a month in advance. I always deliver in person as close to the expiration date as possible, usually inside of a week.'

question. is there an advantage to filing an extension and a renewal as opposed to filing a new application? besides the lack of legal coverage if there was a lapse?

example: "oh crud", "my card is expired", its only been a week. should you...
A. try to file an extension if they will let you and a renewal?
B. just file a new application within a few days?

for the record my card is not expired. :)

MrClone
September 5th, 2007, 09:19 PM
The new policy or now enforced OMMP policy is that extensions must be requested in writing and received before your current card expires.
So if you let it expire it's time for a new application.

But I got a 30 day extension this year and then on the last of the 30 days, I turned in an incomplete application, which by rule gave me two more weeks to get everything in order. So due the the original 5 month lag in getting my card in the first place, all in all I've had over 18 and 1/2 months of OMMP coverage for $20 this time around. Actually I haven't received my "new" card yet to see what the new date is so it may even be more.

Or you can re~apply up to 90 days early. Which is nice to know if they do a another rate increase.

M.C.