Application Renewal Questions

[Alphakronik]

Hi OGFers,

I recently received my yearly renewal packet in the mail from OMMP, and while reading through this thick stack of random info, I came across a FAQ section that had some interesting Q & A's.

I'm not sure if this is new, old, or neither, but it concerned me, and should concern my good friend Rob.


Q) Can i still grow marijuana as a legal patient within 1000ft of a school?
A) The OMMP chooses not to answer that question.




That, IMHO, is BS of the highest degree. I want....no, I DEMAND an answer to that. I know for a fact by them not disclosing the law to us pertaining to that very situation, they are making us liable. I say, for the tons of money patients poured into the OMMP system, they should get off their asses and start working for the people they are to protect, US!



end rant.




Ok, so is that a new question, or old?

[Longtoke]

I gotta say this: #1 it's a pretty cheap shot to take aim at folks that, for the most part take care of their own medical needs legally just "because of---".

I mean, they, whoever they are?, are so concerned about the children in the schools and the distance between, why is it 'they' take addictive narcotics in public places at all? A bad example for sure. Gotta go now. Gotta get some vicadin. There's a drug store right across the street from the school.

GS

[donny]

Hi OGFers,

I recently received my yearly renewal packet in the mail from OMMP, and while reading through this thick stack of random info, I came across a FAQ section that had some interesting Q & A's.

I'm not sure if this is new, old, or neither, but it concerned me, and should concern my good friend Rob.
Q) Can i still grow marijuana as a legal patient within 1000ft of a school?
A) The OMMP chooses not to answer that question.
That, IMHO, is BS of the highest degree. I want....no, I DEMAND an answer to that. I know for a fact by them not disclosing the law to us pertaining to that very situation, they are making us liable. I say, for the tons of money patients poured into the OMMP system, they should get off their asses and start working for the people they are to protect, US!
end rant.
Ok, so is that a new question, or old?[/b]

[donny]

I e-mailed attorney Lee Berger about this question a while back and his response was as follows.



"as long as you are in compliance with the OMMA, you are excepted from criminal liability under state law, including liability for cultivating within a thousand feet of a school."

"hoping this helps,

Lee Berger, Portland"

[grammychronic]

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it is MY understanding, that there is NOTHING in the law that prevents a LEGAL MEDICAL cardholder from growing within 1000' feet of a school. i SUSPECT, by this non answer, that there may be legislation presented by LEO and/or DHS that will speak to that issue to try and change it, further restricting patients from the program. it becomes a problem however, if you are found out of compliance within 1000' feet of a school at this time.
thankyou for pointing that out.
gc

[Alphakronik]

Thanks for the responses. I feel that this issue is going to come up again very soon in legislature.

One more question,

Does a daycare qualify as a school in LEO's eyes?

[Rosequartz]

Hi AlphaK!

I'm with you on this one. I'm wondering if a School of Cosmetology would be on the list as well. http://www.oregongreenfree.us/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
Or what about...... a driving school, culinary school, yoga school and how about a school of fish http://www.oregongreenfree.us/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif

Seriously....the OMMP/A needs to clarify what their definition of a 'school' is..........so the OMMP patient's/growers know exactly what in the sam-h*ll to do!! How can growers stay in compliance when they have no definite description of what they say is a 'school'.

[daniel@mamas]

A few of my pennies:

The OMMP is a unique entity, and while I hesitate to toot the apologist horn, they are really only a registry program with their hands tied by the bureaucracies of the Department of Human Services. They were advised not to answer that question for liability purposes, and we are lucky to be able to access a qualified response (thanks again Lee.)
I believe the definition of school to be arbitrary as according to Lee, compliance is the key term, regardless of the location of the garden. Some of these issues are beyond the programs control, and avenues of change are available.
I think that our perspective is askew due to our privilege (please lets not argue syntax and civics, ask someone in Texas or Utah or the 35+ states where there is no access to cannabis therapeutics if we're lucky to have the OMMP) and we could be focusing our efforts to fine tune the current hiccups of what some would call a pioneering program.

"The program actively pursues administrative streamlining processes in an effort to better serve our patients while maintaining the highest level of confidentiality. Multiple states have requested information on Oregon’s program to use as a model for their own medical marijuana initiatives and registration systems." OMMP DHS Website



Hi AlphaK!

I'm with you on this one. I'm wondering if a School of Cosmetology would be on the list as well. http://www.oregongreenfree.us/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
Or what about...... a driving school, culinary school, yoga school and how about a school of fish http://www.oregongreenfree.us/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif

Seriously....the OMMP/A needs to clarify what their definition of a 'school' is..........so the OMMP patient's/growers know exactly what in the sam-h*ll to do!! How can growers stay in compliance when they have no definite description of what they say is a 'school'.[/b]

[Texas Kid]

You guys are truely lucky to have the opprotunity for any kind of protection at all.

In Texas, they put you under the jail and becuase we do not have any cultivation laws on the books, it becomes "Manufacturing of a Controlled Substance" same as a meth lab or pill press. Once you break the four ounce mark, you hit felony charges for intent to sell/distribute. I know compassionate growers that have recently had their homes invaded, plants, and equipment destroyed with not so much as thank you.

Charish what you have, because the other side is fear with a cloak-n-dagger medical marijuana culture just hiddin out of site. Takes alot of energy to worry about the consequences and stay safe.

Tex

[Joe Blow]

Hey Kid nice to see you aboard. I hope you find all that your lookin for here.http://www.oregongreenfree.us/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Sequoiacrone]

Charish what you have, because the other side is fear with a cloak-n-dagger medical marijuana culture just hiddin out of site. Takes alot of energy to worry about the consequences and stay safe.

Tex [/quote]



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[MrsRoadRunner]

Hello all,



Hope this clarifies some questions about what Oregon considers a "School". There is some other mombo jumbo there as well.



Ignorance of the law means squat, might as well no what is on the books.....

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475.858 Unlawful manufacture of marijuana within 1,000 feet of school. (1) It is unlawful for any person to manufacture marijuana within 1,000 feet of the real property comprising a public or private elementary, secondary or career school attended primarily by minors.

(2) Unlawful manufacture of marijuana within 1,000 feet of a school is a Class A felony. [2005 c.708 §30]



With the number 475.858 you can take this and look it up in a Oregon law book......



While I was there here is another read...



475.860 Unlawful delivery of marijuana. (1) It is unlawful for any person to deliver marijuana.

(2) Unlawful delivery of marijuana is a Class B felony if the delivery is for consideration.

(3) Notwithstanding subsection (2) of this section, unlawful delivery of marijuana is a:

(a) Class A misdemeanor, if the delivery is for no consideration and consists of less than one avoirdupois ounce of the dried leaves, stems and flowers of the plant Cannabis family Moraceae; or

(B) Violation, if the delivery is for no consideration and consists of less than five grams of the dried leaves, stems and flowers of the plant Cannabis family Moraceae. A violation under this paragraph is punishable by a fine of not less than $500 and not more than $1,000. Fines collected under this paragraph shall be forwarded to the Department of Revenue for deposit in the Criminal Fine and Assessment Account established in ORS 137.300.

(4) Notwithstanding subsections (2) and (3) of this section, unlawful delivery of marijuana is a:

(a) Class A felony, if the delivery is to a person under 18 years of age and the defendant is at least 18 years of age and is at least three years older than the person to whom the marijuana is delivered; or

(B) Class C misdemeanor, if the delivery:

(A) Is for no consideration;

(B) Consists of less than five grams of the dried leaves, stems and flowers of the plant Cannabis family Moraceae;

© Takes place in a public place, as defined in ORS 161.015, that is within 1,000 feet of the real property comprising a public or private elementary, secondary or career school attended primarily by minors; and

(D) Is to a person who is 18 years of age or older. [2005 c.708 §31]



475.862 Unlawful delivery of marijuana within 1,000 feet of school. (1) It is unlawful for any person to deliver marijuana within 1,000 feet of the real property comprising a public or private elementary, secondary or career school attended primarily by minors.

(2) Unlawful delivery of marijuana within 1,000 feet of a school is a Class A felony. [2005 c.708 §32]



475.864 Unlawful possession of marijuana. (1) It is unlawful for any person knowingly or intentionally to possess marijuana.

(2) Unlawful possession of marijuana is a Class B felony.

(3) Notwithstanding subsection (2) of this section, unlawful possession of marijuana is a violation if the amount possessed is less than one avoirdupois ounce of the dried leaves, stems and flowers of the plant Cannabis family Moraceae. A violation under this subsection is punishable by a fine of not less than $500 and not more than $1,000. Fines collected under this subsection shall be forwarded to the Department of Revenue for deposit in the Criminal Fine and Assessment Account established under ORS 137.300.

(4) Notwithstanding subsections (2) and (3) of this section, unlawful possession of marijuana is a Class C misdemeanor if the amount possessed is less than one avoirdupois ounce of the dried leaves, stems and flowers of the plant Cannabis family Moraceae and the possession takes place in a public place, as defined in ORS 161.015, that is within 1,000 feet of the real property comprising a public or private elementary, secondary or career school attended primarily by minors. [2005 c.708 §33]

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This issue goes on for a little bit longer, however I thought this is enough of that law stuff......I did not edit anything therefore in this program it does not read as the books reads, so we have smileys and such where they do not belong :0\

[Sequoiacrone]

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[Mdm Pele]

What Cassie posted helps us understand what is meant by "school". Thank you.

[MrsRoadRunner]

Yes Mdm Pele you are correct.....Thank you :0)

[J R]

Yes Mdm Pele you are correct.....Thank you :0)[/b]


NO is the opposite of YES

KNOW is short for KNOWLEDGE

so which is it????????

[Sequoiacrone]

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[MrsRoadRunner]

One thing which all should understand is, everything within these post are looked over by a spider. Not a real spider of course but a cyber spider. More information we have within the forum the easier it is for peeps to find us here off the open web :0) Hence why more detailed information the easier it is for peeps to find us :0) Yes I did add some goop up there which caused a whole other topic to begin.....topics are good right?



There has been MANY people who do not understand why it is I have no instead of know within my quotation and my banner. One thing about banners and quotes, these are attention getters. These are advertisements. When advertising and getting attention (which I am VERY good at by the way), one trick is to come up with a slogan that ketches peeps eye. This has worked VERY well for me lol! Not only here but I do this all over the web, in ALL my id's .....Hopefully this will answer some of the questions to the no and know questions lol!



I am not here to cause any trouble or to step on anyones feet. I am just here to have some fun and talk to others who have the same philosophy as some of mine.....So I guess I should apologize now if I came across as a no it all, as a b###, as taking over, mmm and everything else I have been accused of so many other places.......I am not a people person.....I saw a question and answered it.



Why I say this is I "feel" a tad bit of tension and hope I did not cause this......

[Sequoiacrone]

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[J R]

Cassie,

The answer is "know"...you are not stepping on any toes here at all.
I just like to no, why you spelling that away?

If'n yo is hungry fo attention...that is OK !